Oracle BPM Suite vs. Oracle Siebel CRM

Oracle BPM is part of [the] Middleware SOA suite. Hence Oracle BPM can be directly installed with Oracle WebLogic. Oracle BPM comes with [a] standard out of the box portal. Recently Oracle has introduced another Web based portal to design processes. Standard Oracle BPM workflows can be created using the Jdeveloper. Deploying BPM apps are easy to deploy over Weblogic. All features with Weblogic can be utilized with Oracle BPM. Oracle BPM is [a] standard Middleware product and can make excellent front end applications.

Incentivized

Throughout the time that we have used it, Oracle has provided a full on pipeline of solutions and account planning which increases the services of marketing, accounting and finance. We notice that with sales it was simply a breakthrough, allowing us to make better decisions with real-time view and proactive communication to get the job done. No dislikes for this software at all

• It can easily integrate with other Oracle products and even 3rd party software via adapters
• It scales quite well and can handle the biggest enterprise level solutions we throw at it
• The ability to use previous requirements as templates is invaluable

Incentivized

• Siebel clearly separates the data layer, from the business layer, application, and web.
• The navigation and relationship between entities is clear and easy to configure, but it can be improved.
• Siebel CRM as a product is robust, reliable, and easy to configure. The architecture is solid and scalable.
• Components can be added on demand.

Incentivized

• Extremely complicated to work with. The WYSIWYG is of no help either since it very buggy and poorly designed. If you are a business or functional user, you will have a hard time using the application.
• The Oracle's "Using" and "Implementing" guides are nearly useless with no examples and case studies and there is no documentation available to learn or understand the process.
• Very few skilled developers are available in market who really understand how to implement Oracle BPM suite.

Incentivized

• Lack of documentation for developers -- it feels like almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, especially around OpenUI. Sure there are some things on bookshelf, but that's all it is, some. It's not in depth--there are hardly any examples and I generally get answers outside of bookshelf.
• Support isn't so good, I'd sooner try to solve the problem with many workarounds than put a support ticket in that might go into the abyss and never get resolved.
• The user interface is lacking for our version. Granted, we are at least four years behind and have no mobile responsiveness (we had to build that ourselves) but I've seen the newer version and there need to be more intuitive user interface patterns in general
• Sometimes there are weird quirks in customizations that should work in theory, but don't.

Incentivized

In many scenarios it should have provided more features. It took a lot of effort while debugging, making it difficult to maintain.

Not easy to debug errors.

Oracle Siebel CRM is an older Sales CRM, so many of it's features aren't as current as ones used today. However, it has a smoother and easy-to-use UI. We're glad that we can still access Oracle Siebel CRM because it's easier to find older information that we can't easily find in our Salesforce Lightning CRM tool.

Incentivized

We no longer have support for our Oracle Siebel CRM. When we did, the support was slow to get some things fixed, therefore, there was a lot of downtime. Of course, this slowed down our overall productivity and increased our overall frustration with the tool. However, it would be nice if we still had some support with it since we still do access it from time to time.

Incentivized

Overall satisfactory

All are fairly similar in capabilities, but the Oracle BPM Suite has good support for BPMN 2.0, integrates well with open standards and has an excellent design/development platform when compared to the other BPM vendors. The Oracle BPM Suite integrates well with the complimentary Oracle Fusion Middleware products that typically accompany a BPM implementation, making it a part of an overall well integrated solution set. Oracle BPM also has very good monitoring, reporting and analytics support built-in.

Siebel is quite a bit slower in performance and lacks support for modern browsers, in contrast to Salesforce.com. It's also much less searchable and discoverable (with regard to insights) and lacks a fresh look. I'm not privy to all the reasons why our organization moved away from Siebel CRM, but I'm glad we did.

Incentivized

• When we moved to Oracle BPM many years ago, it was a huge uplift for our business processes because we didn't have any tool to model flows except Outlook and Excel.
• We established and streamlined the manufacturing workflows that were needed with the growth of the business.
• We discovered after a while that the ROI was not great since along with the cost of the tools, we had to account the cost of development from the software team too. It took a lot of time to deliver our first automations due to the big learning curve needed for Oracle BPM.

Incentivized

• Very positive impact: replacing multiple silo applications based on outdated technology
• Provide data integrity by eliminating redundancy and the use of audit trails
• Improves safety of users on the field: use of tracking tool and providing list of hazards
• Thanks to the multi-org feature of the Siebel CRM, after a first successful implementation we were able to package the solution and offer it to multiple other customers, with minimum changes.

Incentivized