HCL Domino vs. IBM Cloud Pak for Applications

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
HCL Domino
Score 3.4 out of 10
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HCL Domino (formerly IBM Domino, and before that Lotus Domino) is an enterprise application development platform, boasting mobile-app capabilities to enterprise authentication and a companion low-code app builder called Domino Volt.N/A
IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Score 7.2 out of 10
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IBM Cloud Pak® for Applications (CP4Apps) is an end-to-end hybrid cloud application platform, providing flexibility for deployments, building new cloud-native applications, refactoring and re-platforming existing applications. Designed to leverage a collection of application runtimes, modernization tools and a Kubernetes container platform to adapt to their landscape needs.N/A
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Domino is secure by comparison, due in part by it's lower market share, but also it's native encryption capability. Domino is stable. With fewer changes and revisions, Domino performance can be relied upon with existing infrastructure. Despite its clunky admin console, administration as a whole is easier and more intuitive. The native Domino application language is either Java or LotusScript. Finding developers for the latter application can be troublesome.
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IBM Cloud Pak for Applications is clearly suitable for modernizing the WebSphere runtime from the heavy, complex and expensive WAS-ND, and to a lesser extent WAS-base, to the super simple, fast and lightweight WebSphere Liberty runtime. I guarantee, once you start using Liberty you'll never look back. Enough cannot be said about how awesome Transformation Advisor is. The output analysis it produces, along with the migration plan and associated artifacts, considerably simplifies both the decision-making process surrounding modernization and subsequent implementation. Without TA we would've made bad decisions by blindly picking unsuitable apps for moving from WAS to Liberty. Using the results from TA we've excluded multiple WAS apps from our immediate plans to migrate to Liberty, saving time and effort that probably would have resulted in a failed migration. We recently used Transformation Advisor to help us successfully migrate an app from Tomcat to WebSphere Liberty. We needed to make some changes to the Tomcat app, but TA helped highlight these required changes. Without TA I'm not sure we would have succeeded.
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Pros
  • Security
  • Total Cost of Ownership
  • Compatibility (20+ year old applications continue to run with no issues)
  • Upgrades - these are 30 minute tasks.
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  • WebSphere Liberty for lighter footprint
  • Transformation Advisor
  • Mono2Micro
  • Customer can benefit from their investment by optimizing license offerings in IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
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Cons
  • I am not a fan of the Domino ID for authentication purposes. Some Admins appreciate this feature, but ID aging, updating and management issues are burdensome.
  • Integrations with current available software applications as a result of lower Domino adoption rates.
  • Administration tools are somewhat dated and clunky. Even with updates and patches, the Domino administrator console hasn't changed in years.
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  • While the licensing is considerably simplified than it used to be, I still find it somewhat confusing. For example, WebSphere Liberty Core has an 8:1 VPC ratio. This is clear when dealing with VMs but it is still not clear to me as to whether we get an 8:1 ratio when running on OpenShift or whether we need to purchase additional OpenShift licenses to support running WebSphere Liberty Core in OpenShift.
  • Not so much related to IBM Cloud Pak for Applications, but while Transformation Advisor is an indispensable tool to help modernize to the WebSphere Liberty runtime, I wish we could run it against WebSphere Liberty itself. The reason being, we are now using TA as a single repository for our configurations. TA also highlights many potential issues when migrating to Liberty; these issues may also be applicable for apps already running in Liberty, we just don't know it yet.
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Alternatives Considered
We use SharePoint, SQL and Teams but only for the things that they excel in. For example, we use teams for small team interactions (including external participants). We use teams for meetings too. We've discovered that Teams collaboration is not as full-functional as Domino and more importantly, that our members (financial services) do not trust the Open Office365 cloud. SharePoint and Team collaborative features are often blocked in our member organizations. Domino is much easier to identify and unblock at the firewall level. It's much easier to restrict collaboration to approved options in Domino.
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Our customer mission-critical core banking applications like Temenos T24 run on best of the breed IBM WebSphere Application Server which is java based-application server. IBM has kept up the promise of providing support, fixpack, and any update. As far as I know, at least by 2030, IBM is committed to continue with WHE which gives customers confidence in their current investments.
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Return on Investment
  • Domino powered applications has positively impacted our company.
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  • Increased Development Efficiency
  • Cost Reduction in Infrastructure Management
  • Enhanced Application Performance and Reliability
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