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    Epicor HCM (discontinued)

    Score9.6 out of 10
    N/AEpicor HCM supplied human resource management system (HRMS) capabilities, but Epicor has stopped offering this functionality and company's HR applications are no longer available.N/A

    Paycom

    Score7.4 out of 10
    N/APaycom supports HR and payroll with automated, employee-first technology that supports every stage of employment. Its single database enables seamless data management, to reduce errors, endless data entry and time-consuming administrative tasks.N/A
    Pricing
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paycom
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    Free Trial
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    Free/Freemium Version
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    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paycom
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    Paycom
    Chose Paycom
    I've used BambooHR, which I loved, but they just didn't have a payroll side to it. I've used ADP, which I hate it, and wasn't interested in getting their HR side of it. We've used a product called Epicor, which it was mediocre at best. And those are the only products I'm …
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    Would buy again
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    95%
    Would buy again
    317 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
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    95%
    Delivers good value for the price
    290 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
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    96%
    Happy with the feature set
    321 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    91%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    228 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
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    90%
    Implementation went as expected
    220 Answers
    Features
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paycom
    Human Resource Management
    Comparison of Human Resource Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    9 Ratings
    24% above category average
    Paycom
    7.9
    390 Ratings
    1% above category average
    Employee demographic data10.09 Ratings9.0354 Ratings
    Employment history10.09 Ratings8.6340 Ratings
    Job profiles and administration10.08 Ratings8.2341 Ratings
    Workflow for transfers, promotions, pay raises, etc.10.09 Ratings7.1341 Ratings
    Organizational charting10.05 Ratings7.3261 Ratings
    Organization and location management10.08 Ratings7.6298 Ratings
    Compliance data (COBRA, OSHA, etc.)10.04 Ratings7.3283 Ratings
    Payroll Management
    Comparison of Payroll Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    7 Ratings
    23% above category average
    Paycom
    8.1
    402 Ratings
    2% above category average
    Pay calculation10.04 Ratings9.1390 Ratings
    Support for external payroll vendors10.07 Ratings6.447 Ratings
    Off-cycle/On-Demand payment10.01 Ratings8.713 Ratings
    Benefit plan administration10.07 Ratings8.0338 Ratings
    Direct deposit files10.05 Ratings9.8389 Ratings
    Salary revision and increment management10.06 Ratings7.1323 Ratings
    Reimbursement management10.02 Ratings7.2219 Ratings
    Leave and Attendance Management
    Comparison of Leave and Attendance Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    9.0
    7 Ratings
    12% above category average
    Paycom
    7.7
    354 Ratings
    4% below category average
    Approval workflow10.06 Ratings7.9337 Ratings
    Balance details8.07 Ratings7.5338 Ratings
    Annual carry-forward and encashment9.05 Ratings7.8282 Ratings
    Employee Self Service
    Comparison of Employee Self Service features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    9.8
    8 Ratings
    19% above category average
    Paycom
    8.9
    402 Ratings
    10% above category average
    View and generate pay and benefit information9.07 Ratings9.8395 Ratings
    Update personal information10.08 Ratings9.6398 Ratings
    View company policy documentation10.06 Ratings8.6354 Ratings
    Employee recognition10.02 Ratings7.3192 Ratings
    View job history10.06 Ratings8.9316 Ratings
    Asset Management
    Comparison of Asset Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    4 Ratings
    21% above category average
    Paycom
    4.9
    26 Ratings
    49% below category average
    Tracking of all physical assets10.04 Ratings4.926 Ratings
    HR Reporting
    Comparison of HR Reporting features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    7.0
    9 Ratings
    7% below category average
    Paycom
    6.7
    346 Ratings
    11% below category average
    Report builder8.09 Ratings7.2340 Ratings
    Pre-built reports6.09 Ratings7.2337 Ratings
    Ability to combine HR data with external data7.08 Ratings5.855 Ratings
    Onboarding
    Comparison of Onboarding features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    3 Ratings
    24% above category average
    Paycom
    7.8
    342 Ratings
    1% below category average
    New hire portal10.03 Ratings8.0339 Ratings
    Manager tracking tools10.03 Ratings7.6293 Ratings
    Performance and Goals
    Comparison of Performance and Goals features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    4 Ratings
    23% above category average
    Paycom
    5.5
    199 Ratings
    36% below category average
    Corporate goal setting10.03 Ratings4.236 Ratings
    Individual goal setting10.04 Ratings6.9186 Ratings
    Line-of sight-visibility10.03 Ratings4.835 Ratings
    Performance tracking10.04 Ratings6.2195 Ratings
    Performance Management
    Comparison of Performance Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    9.2
    4 Ratings
    16% above category average
    Paycom
    7.0
    247 Ratings
    11% below category average
    Performance plans10.04 Ratings7.4228 Ratings
    Performance improvement plans10.03 Ratings7.1216 Ratings
    Review status tracking10.04 Ratings7.5222 Ratings
    Review reminders7.04 Ratings7.1228 Ratings
    Multiple review frequency9.03 Ratings6.0204 Ratings
    Succession Planning
    Comparison of Succession Planning features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    3 Ratings
    25% above category average
    Paycom
    6.8
    34 Ratings
    14% below category average
    Create succession plans/pools10.01 Ratings9.124 Ratings
    Candidate ranking10.03 Ratings6.830 Ratings
    Candidate search10.03 Ratings5.833 Ratings
    Candidate development10.01 Ratings5.429 Ratings
    Recruiting / ATS
    Comparison of Recruiting / ATS features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Paycom
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    4 Ratings
    26% above category average
    Paycom
    5.7
    239 Ratings
    30% below category average
    Job Requisition Management10.04 Ratings5.8214 Ratings
    Company Website Posting10.03 Ratings5.2211 Ratings
    Publish to Social Media10.01 Ratings4.8169 Ratings
    Job Search Site Posting10.02 Ratings5.3196 Ratings
    Duplicate Candidate Prevention10.03 Ratings6.3185 Ratings
    Applicant Tracking10.04 Ratings5.4219 Ratings
    Notifications and Alerts10.04 Ratings7.1225 Ratings
    User Ratings
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paycom
    Likelihood to Recommend
    9.0
    (12 ratings)
    7.9
    (425 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    10.0
    (2 ratings)
    8.9
    (23 ratings)
    Usability
    7.0
    (2 ratings)
    9.1
    (24 ratings)
    Availability
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    9.1
    (2 ratings)
    Performance
    9.0
    (2 ratings)
    9.1
    (2 ratings)
    Support Rating
    1.0
    (4 ratings)
    9.1
    (52 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
    Online Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.1
    (2 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    7.1
    (2 ratings)
    8.2
    (7 ratings)
    Configurability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.1
    (2 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
    (0 ratings)
    5.5
    (1 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    8.6
    (3 ratings)
    9.1
    (2 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    9.0
    (4 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    9.0
    (4 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paycom
    Likelihood to Recommend
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    While Epicor HCM is functional for enterprises with many branch locations, I feel that is best suited out of the box for locations with corporately centralized HR. This overcomes some of the shortcomings of security capability and the need to spend a lot of time in configuring routing. The CSS portion of Epicor HCM is not as robust as competing systems and should not be used if corporations are actively looking to onboard at a high rate.
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    Paycom
    It's very mobile friendly, especially for people that aren't tech savvy. We have an aged workforce where we were really concerned about how they would adapt, going from the comfort of using paper to a mobile and online application. But the training was really easy and the adaptation has been simple for us as a company.
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    Pros
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    • Security is always an issue with payroll/HR software. Security in Epicor HCM is very robust. In our manufacturing facility it is important that supervisors have access to their employee's information and the software allows me to limit access to only the correct department. There is also menu security that will allow me to remove access to features by user and grant access only to what they require to do the job.
    • This software is the repository for many different types of employee information. For example in the past we have tracked skills training by employee in either an Access database or an Excel spreadsheet. We are currently in the process of loading individual employee skill information which will allow us to query the database to pull any information that is not already a canned report in the system.
    • Payroll tax reports are handled by the system seamlessly. In our old system I had to keep confidential employees in a different "company" which meant I had to combine the two companies and do quarterly and year end tax reporting manually. The confidential flag in Epicor HCM allows me to utilize reports directly from the system and also creates the files needed to file online for both my quarterly SUI and W-2 reporting to SSA at year end.
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    • I would say the communication post-implementation is amazing. Allie is our representative. She's amazing. Caitlin is amazing. I just met Travis last week at the office. Amazing. The communication is great and helpful, so if one of the team members don't have the answer, they can just jump in. For instance, I was on a call with Caitlin yesterday and she was like, "I'm not really sure about this answer. Let me see if I can go run it byTravis." I know he's on another call and instead of him saying blah, blah, he came over and looked at the screen and was like, do this, do this. It's a little different. So I would say the customer service is the best.
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    Cons
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    • Administrative set-up is a nightmare --> Set-up such as e-mail templates (routing, candidate communication, alerts) and configuring security rights for users, includes looking at list of approximately 100 fields some of which seem like duplicates. Interestingly, you may find that the field you need is missing. You'll need to create a work-around or pay Professional Services to get it set-up correctly, even though they should logically be available. Another alternative is that you need to go to an obscure task under Utilities that you've never used before so you can uncheck a box.
    • Auto alerts seem like a great idea, but the set-up is limited in such a way that you will probably need a Filter SQL statement to get it the way you want. (Ex: No way on the birthday alert to simply filter to active employees. Get ready to send out over 500 alerts for ALL employees and dependents.) You can either ask someone in your IT department or again, go to Professional Services ($$$).
    • Routing also seems like a great idea but if you make too many changes in the routing set-up, it errors out and doesn't allow you to submit changes. Instead you must make only a few changes, submit, then go to the task again. Efficiency is not a concern for HCM. If you have more than 5-10 routes in the system for certain tasks, this can slow down the entire routing page, making you wait between 20-40 seconds to approve and go to the next route. This will make for a fun time during your annual review process when you've got 100+ reviews routed to you.
    • Epicor staff (except for customer support) are salespeople--first and foremost --> Glassdoor reviews show that Epicor "emphasizes billable hours above all else" -- we've experienced this firsthand. Most account managers, implementation and interface consultants will try get you on the phone (at a whopping $100-$300/hr) to talk about nothing and avoid delivering what you've paid them for. If they're not doing that, they may just ignore your e-mails and never get back to you.
    • Unreliable customer support --> Customer support staff seems understaffed and sometimes lack technical knowledge. Not surprising considering that HCM is so convoluted and frustrating. Even the most expert support reps are stumped by questions--the system is just that confusing. Sometimes there is no resolution at all so your call is turned into a service change request. Then you cross your fingers and hope it gets addressed in the next upgrade. I submitted one support call over two months ago. It is still open. Sadly that is not out of the norm.
    • Unexplainable errors in interfaces --> Payroll and benefits interfaces have been unreliable. Employee data changes are dropped with no explanation; ergo, there is no possible solution. Unless of course you want your benefits consultant to spend several hours ($$$) researching it or very, very slowly talking you through it over the phone.
    • Customizations that keep on breaking and breaking and breaking --> HCM releases updates almost twice a year, with "new and improved" features. Sometimes the features don't work, as if the software was updated without any testing or foresight. You'll find that customizations you've paid for have broken inexplicably and need to be re-done. Of course you will be charged for the extra hours needed to fix the customizations.
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    Paycom
    • I think that when we do need a response back, which is very unlikely from the contact about something that's happening or going on, it can take a little long to get back to us. Longer than we would like because obviously it's an emergency to us, but we understand they have tons of emergencies they have to solve. But I think that's the only aspect.
    • I know from a payroll standpoint, which I'm not really privy to because I don't work on the payroll side, there have been some little hiccups that about certain formulas used, certain credits being issued that we've already filed for tax credits that we filed for. So I know that my CFO's already on top of it and pay comes on top of it as well and it's getting resolved, but obviously that's a big issue that needs some work there.
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    Likelihood to Renew
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    I just recently lost my job after 16 years, and purposely sought out a position where I could continue to work with HCM. I am now in a similar role to what I was in before, and can continue the same type of work and enhancements that I did at my other company.
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    Paycom
    Because it has everything that we need and as we grow, we are learning how robust Paycom can actually be but we need to be willing to spend the money. It's not expensive but we, as a company, are not used to spending that much on a system for HR and payroll.
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    Usability
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    Where it's good: Epicor HCM at a high level has a straight-forward interface for navigating to the main content sections at either the employee or HR administrator level. The interfaces are consistent throughout the application, and after a brief learning curve, one can navigate through the remainder of the interface pages in any content area without too much difficulty. HCM also has great tools for making sure the analysis of data is available and accessible to non-programmer personnel. Where it struggles: One thing working against the usability of the HCM product is the overuse of the row-selection scheme for all many to many relationships. HCM uses a "select the row from the left frame" and then "enter data corresponding to this row in the right frame" scheme for most of its data entry components. One example of overuse is the employee address entry. During the first setup of an employee or during a candidate's application, HCM allows the user to specify multiple addresses. While this functionality is desired for long-term storage, an option doesn't exist to forgo this interface type for quick initial entry for the primary use case (one address per employee). This is one example, but is particularly visible when a candidate must also bridge the learning curve.
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    Paycom
    The interface is very intuitive, you can navigate it pretty well. Everything's pretty much spelled out and the features just flow really well. They make it easy for you to go back and forth with the UX/UI type of interface. So I think it was built pretty well.
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    Reliability and Availability
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    The product was always available.
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    Paycom
    They are very dependable and I have never experience any outages
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    Performance
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    The product performs well. As with any software there are bugs and system enhancements needed, but there are channels in place to let Epicor know what they are so they can add to future versions. Open Enrollment and Salary Planning can be a bit slow at times.
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    Paycom
    Yes, Paycom's performance is excellent, no issues.
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    Support Rating
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    There have been a lot of issues with it at first, but we've been figuring a lot of them out on our own. Needing patches to the program though is something that I didn't expect to happen as often as it does.
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    Paycom
    Our TSR has been wonderful to work with. Every step of the
    way he was quick to respond and answer any questions we had. I knew I could
    reach him at any time (day or night) and he would be available to assist.
    Implementing a new HRIS system is obviously a huge task and I contribute all
    our success to our rep Kurt! Of course, with any implementation, there were
    bumps along the way and issues. But I always knew we would work as a team to
    get those issues figured out. Working in the Paycom system has been smooth and
    easy to learn and I enjoy the employee self-service interface. Our managers
    have had positive things to say and are all excited about the changes we have
    been able to make to our organization due to Paycom being implemented.
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    In-Person Training
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    We had someone from Epicor come on site to do training, and we "shared" our trainer with another company who was also doing the same major upgrade. It was nice to have another company there so we could ask each other (and the trainer) questions. This allowed for more meaningful discussions during training.
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    Paycom
    They were a sales person and not really a good trainer.
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    Online Training
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    Paycom
    All the online training modules were short and straight to the point. Every module teach you how to use the system. If there is one thing they know how to do is training. We did implementation during the pandemic so all had to be done online or via zoom meetings.
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    Implementation Rating
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    As stated earlier, you won't find all of the problems and things that you would like to improve on until you implement. After go-live, you then will have a long period of adjustment as you get the data and processes to work the way that you really want them to.
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    Paycom
    Not at all satisfied it was a nightmare we spent over 8 months with the implementation team having issues after issues all related to the Puerto Rico regulations (half my employees are in Puerto Rico) and at the end we were moved over from the implementation team to the production team without all the issues being resolved
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    Epicor pales in comparison to the HRIS and report building systems listed above. Unfortunately, Epicor was implemented prior to my joining the organization. From what I was told, Epicor was chosen because of its ability to be customizable to any industry. However, what we have learned is that this isn't the whole truth. While Epicor might be able to customize to your specific industry with creating certain data fields, it still cannot function properly to meet the needs of your respective industry. For example, my industry is education. There are numerous grant propasals that we send that require specific demographic information. Consequently, when we try to run a report in Epicor, that information is never captured with accuracy which makes sending these reports for grants a herculean task, especially when these donors question our data.
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    Paycom
    We really only had Paychecks and that was our biggest problem is that with several different companies, it was very hard If you had a salary employee and didn't terminate them in the prior company, they get paid twice, so this has really been definitely a big help for us.
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    Scalability
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    Performance is not noticeably impacted by adding more users. Microsoft IIS and SQL are Epicor HCM's underlying technology and have proven reliability. In addition, IS staff are easy to find that know these technologies.
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    Paycom
    They are not able to meet our current needs
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    Return on Investment
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    • Epicor HCM had a positive impact on our ROI by matching the right employees to specific roles based on their set of skills and competencies.
    • The tool positively impacted the performance and efficiencies throughout the different corporate departments.
    • It could have a negative impact on user satisfaction when it comes to support and response time.
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    Paycom
    • I think our fiscal team who handles the ROI would say that it has had a negative impact just because a lot of stuff is a la carte and we weren't aware of that before we went into a business relationship with Paycom. So I think it's had a negative impact.
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    Screenshot of a new study that reveals that for a composite organization representative of interviewed clients, unifying HR and payroll in a single-database software with automation and streamlined workflows achieved a three-year 362% ROI and resulted in: $1.4M net present value*; over 45% total time saved by HR; 80% time saved on compliance work.Screenshot of IWant, which is a command-driven AI engine in a single database, for instant access to employee data.Screenshot of Direct Data Exchange®, which takes a detailed pulse of how employees interact with Paycom. It automatically assigns a dollar value of savings based on Ernst & Young research.