HCL Notes vs. HCL Sametime

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
HCL Notes
Score 3.5 out of 10
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Notes from HCL (formerly from IBM, acquired by HCL in late 2018) is a collaboration platform based on the Lotus platform.N/A
HCL Sametime
Score 8.0 out of 10
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HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Lotus Sametime, acquired by HCL Technologies from IBM in 2018) is an enterprise-level unified communications and VoIP platform. It includes features such as instant messaging, web conferencing, voice and video integration, telephony capabilities, and presence information.N/A
Pricing
HCL NotesHCL Sametime
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
HCL NotesHCL Sametime
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
HCL NotesHCL Sametime
Features
HCL NotesHCL Sametime
Project Management
Comparison of Project Management features of Product A and Product B
HCL Notes
6.9
Ratings
11% below category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Task Management7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Gantt Charts6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Scheduling8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Workflow Automation5.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile Access8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Search6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Visual planning tools8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Communication
Comparison of Communication features of Product A and Product B
HCL Notes
9.2
Ratings
15% above category average
HCL Sametime
-
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Chat6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Notifications9.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Discussions9.50 Ratings00 Ratings
Surveys9.10 Ratings00 Ratings
Internal knowledgebase10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with GoToMeeting10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with Gmail and Google Hangouts10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with Outlook10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
File Sharing & Management
Comparison of File Sharing & Management features of Product A and Product B
HCL Notes
7.6
Ratings
3% below category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Versioning9.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Video files6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Audio files6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Document collaboration8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Access control6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Advanced security features8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with Google Drive10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Device sync8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Cloud PBX
Comparison of Cloud PBX features of Product A and Product B
HCL Notes
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.4
Ratings
5% above category average
Hosted PBX00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Multi-level Interactive Voice Response (IVR)00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
User templates00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call reports00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Directory of employee names00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call Management
Comparison of Call Management features of Product A and Product B
HCL Notes
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
Ratings
5% below category average
Answering rules00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call recording00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call park00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call screening00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Message alerts00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
VoIP system collaboration
Comparison of VoIP system collaboration features of Product A and Product B
HCL Notes
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
Ratings
0% above category average
Video conferencing00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Audio conferencing00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Video screen sharing00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Instant messaging00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Mobile apps
Comparison of Mobile apps features of Product A and Product B
HCL Notes
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
Ratings
1% above category average
Mobile app for iOS00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Mobile app for Android00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
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User Ratings
HCL NotesHCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
7.0
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7.0
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Likelihood to Renew
1.7
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10.0
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Usability
10.0
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8.6
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Availability
10.0
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10.0
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Performance
10.0
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9.0
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Support Rating
9.0
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8.3
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Online Training
10.0
(0 ratings)
-
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Implementation Rating
9.0
(0 ratings)
-
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Ease of integration
-
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9.0
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
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10.0
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
HCL NotesHCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
I often work with teams from other country and regions, hence HCL Notes is a very useful platform for internal company management operations. It standardized organisational work standards in most of the offices worldwide. HCL Notes also enables chat with other team around the world that I find very helpful when initiating conversation or just want to have a quick update rather than sending emails and waiting for replies. However, HCL Notes is not very efficient in web browsing and user still need to use other internet service providers.
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Overall, Sametime is a great feature for global teams to communicate, since you can chat quickly and efficiently with Sametime. Also, the file transfer is really fast and it downloads to any folder you choose. The chat history is easy to use and it is easy to find keywords. The feature of creating "emoticons" sometimes can jeopardize the team's efficiency.
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Pros
  • Data sharing via small database format is valuable as they are quickly deployed, easily managed and distributed on backend email servers.
  • Integrated messaging allows quick communications between geographical sites reducing long distance costs.
  • Policy documents for registering new users, setting initial security levels, assigning default database access is managed easily with the admin client.
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  • The license cost is comparatively low so almost all staff have it installed in our company. We can use it to contact all internal staff.
  • It’s light and fast with almost no downtime. It also provides easy to use APIs for the user to build automation process on it. We have an internally built robot running on Sametime to answer frequently asked questions and do some repetitive tasks.
  • Chat history can be saved as per user’s preference and it is easy to be searched.
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Cons
  • The simple user experience can be touted as a positive, but it is also a negative in some ways. Compared to other calendars, email and chat tools, IBM Notes looks like it is from the 90s.
  • We have constant issues with chat crashing. This is the main reason so many people in our organization chose to switch away from Notes.
  • There aren't a lot of integrations with IBM Notes and other applications we regularly use. Notes seems to have been left behind by many.
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  • The mobile app is not that great for anything outside of straight up messaging.
  • We tried video chatting within Sametime without any real success. There were connection issues and the app would crash quite often. We switched to another product and had no problems.
  • IBM Sametime just looks outdated. The menus and contact list are not up to date from a UX perspective compared to many other popular chat apps.
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Likelihood to Renew
Since companies started to moved their email systems to the Exchange platform and the cloud, we are unable to find any new projects with IBM Notes, the marketing share and software price is another issue, so we have to move to another platform.
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Sametime is now an embedded experience for our users. They know it, they like it, they use it, and they expect it to be wherever they are. Because it is pretty easy to use and NEVER goes down, users know they can rely on it and won't be frustrated by it. Sametime is right up with there with Microsoft Office in terms of user adoption and appreciation.
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Usability
Easy to use for the user, most of the apps we developed, there is not much need for user training. Most of the times, we just do a demo to the users group and they can pick up from there.
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Just about everything works the way you expect it would and it's relatively easy for users to figure out. Sametime was one of those things that we started with only a few people as a "test" and before the test period was done we discovered a few hundred people had figured out how to log in and most got it working all on their own. Many of our users want to use Sametime and do so regularly; we do not have to create policies enforcing its usage. Users find it practical to use Sametime to do things like chat, transfer files, share their screen, and so forth.
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Reliability and Availability
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Typically if Sametime is not available, it's because Windows Updates were done on the servers and they were not rebooted. However, that's not a problem with Sametime -- in fact, if you have Linux you could probably run Sametime for years without any hiccups whatsoever. We have no internal Linux expertise.
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Performance
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Generally very good. Occasionally AV or screen-sharing will stutter and every now and then I hear of it dropping out altogether, but in all cases it was easy to re-establish
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Support Rating
I've been using the production for a very long time and very happy with it. Also, all the online resources and forums for notes is very friendly and easy/quick for getting help. I found out that compared to Microsoft or Oracle or any other platforms, IBM Notes online forum is the best I have seen.
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I have to use support for many customers. However, support is generally quite responsive and continues to see an issue through to resolution and I would recommend using their knowledgeable and well-trained staff.
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Implementation Rating
Implementation is easy and smooth if the requirement is well gathered/documented. Notes is a RAD platform, all projects in Notes is simple in the implementation step.
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Alternatives Considered
I've already answered this question in the previous questions however to sum it up IBM Notes stacks up VERY WELL! It has a LOT of really good business/enterprise features like enterprise-grade Dropbox-like storage, synced email/calendar/contacts, it supports a LOT of third-party add-ins, easy-to-use and friendly, very strong and robust, and most importantly it's a LOT more secure in my opinion than the competition.
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Text chat is text chat. It's not a technically hard problem to solve. It's when you try and move out of text chat into more fully featured applications that allow for audio or video calling, transcripts, etc, it becomes apparent that the developers on Sametime gave up a long time ago. In my organization, Slack has nearly completely replaced Sametime for any and all purposes that Sametime used to fulfill.
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Scalability
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Sametime is rock solid. It runs on WebSphere, DB2 and other related IBM technologies. This does mean the back-end is highly complex and very difficult to learn and get comfortable with, however.
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Return on Investment
  • ROI for us has been extreme. In the late 1990's we automated dozens and dozens of paper-based processes and created workflows for activities that had never been formalized before. Additionally all those forms with their comments, etc. have been captured in a central place to serve as audit trails.
  • Whenever we need faster access to data (mail or otherwise), it's quick and easy to deploy a new Domino server somewhere, setup replication of appropriate databases, and get the local Notes clients pointed to those resources. So that to me is positive ROI because it represents time savings based on user need.
  • Tech. Support would claim a negative ROI in terms of supporting the Notes client, Notes updates, peculiar Notes issues, and users who complain about Notes. That is certainly true to a point. The Notes client is a much more complex piece of software than, say, Outlook. But we have to remember that Notes deployments are not just for Mail but many, many applications as well. In the end I'd say we might have 1 or 2 user complaints per month, typically around Calendar issues more than anything else.
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  • HCL Sametime is affordable thus it is cost-efficient for instant messaging compared to costs of phone calls, especially overseas calls.
  • As Sametime is integrated with Lotus Notes it is convenient to use both of these together without separately using them.
  • Still need to pay for other apps for effective video conferencing and webinar.
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