Google Hangouts (Classic) vs. HCL Sametime

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Google Hangouts (Classic)
Score 2.8 out of 10
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The classic version of Google Hangouts included messaging, voice, VoIP, and video call capabilities. It was replaced by the Hangouts Chat collaboration tool, and Google continues to support conferencing via the new Hangouts Meet.N/A
HCL Sametime
Score 8.0 out of 10
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HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Lotus Sametime, acquired by HCL Technologies from IBM in 2018) is an enterprise-level unified communications and VoIP platform. It includes features such as instant messaging, web conferencing, voice and video integration, telephony capabilities, and presence information.N/A
Pricing
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Offerings
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Google Hangouts (Classic)HCL Sametime
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Features
Google Hangouts (Classic)HCL Sametime
Cloud PBX
Comparison of Cloud PBX features of Product A and Product B
Google Hangouts (Classic)
5.3
Ratings
40% below category average
HCL Sametime
8.4
Ratings
5% above category average
Hosted PBX2.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Multi-level Interactive Voice Response (IVR)7.70 Ratings9.00 Ratings
User templates5.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call reports9.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Directory of employee names3.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call Management
Comparison of Call Management features of Product A and Product B
Google Hangouts (Classic)
6.8
Ratings
21% below category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
Ratings
5% below category average
Answering rules2.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call recording7.90 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call park7.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call screening9.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Message alerts8.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
VoIP system collaboration
Comparison of VoIP system collaboration features of Product A and Product B
Google Hangouts (Classic)
7.1
Ratings
11% below category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
Ratings
0% above category average
Video conferencing3.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Audio conferencing9.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Video screen sharing7.10 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Instant messaging9.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Mobile apps
Comparison of Mobile apps features of Product A and Product B
Google Hangouts (Classic)
7.0
Ratings
12% below category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
Ratings
1% above category average
Mobile app for iOS6.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Mobile app for Android8.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
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User Ratings
Google Hangouts (Classic)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
1.0
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7.0
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Likelihood to Renew
10.0
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10.0
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Usability
10.0
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8.6
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Availability
-
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10.0
(0 ratings)
Performance
-
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9.0
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
8.0
(0 ratings)
8.3
(0 ratings)
Ease of integration
-
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9.0
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
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10.0
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Google Hangouts (Classic)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
As previously mentioned, Google Hangouts (Classic) is best suited for ad-hoc, informal communications with external collaborators that would benefit from face-to-face interactions, but don’t require a record of the conversation and don’t necessarily require a high degree of corporate security. For communications of consequence, our corporate toolset is more appropriate, but Google Hangouts (Classic) serves a similar function to FaceTime or Zoom.
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Overall, Sametime is a great feature for global teams to communicate, since you can chat quickly and efficiently with Sametime. Also, the file transfer is really fast and it downloads to any folder you choose. The chat history is easy to use and it is easy to find keywords. The feature of creating "emoticons" sometimes can jeopardize the team's efficiency.
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Pros
  • Google Hangouts (Classic) is embedded within Gmail's scheduler, so setting up the link is as quick as a click of the button. It's a one-step process.
  • Google Hangouts (Classic) is user-friendly and [has] features to share screens easily.
  • Google Hangouts (Classic) is much easier to use than its competitors.
  • Google Hangouts (Classic) have [a] good connection time and there are few glitches.
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  • The license cost is comparatively low so almost all staff have it installed in our company. We can use it to contact all internal staff.
  • It’s light and fast with almost no downtime. It also provides easy to use APIs for the user to build automation process on it. We have an internally built robot running on Sametime to answer frequently asked questions and do some repetitive tasks.
  • Chat history can be saved as per user’s preference and it is easy to be searched.
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Cons
  • I would like to see improved video support, so that saved videos can be sent back and forth via Hangouts more easily, without having to start a separate meet chat
  • More pronounced notifications of messages would be helpful; pop up notifications are good, but once there is one, additional messages do not pop up
  • Custom muting times would be great, so that if I am in a 90 minute Zoom meeting, I can set it for that time; right now, it is 1 hour or 2 hours. Easy to forget.
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  • The mobile app is not that great for anything outside of straight up messaging.
  • We tried video chatting within Sametime without any real success. There were connection issues and the app would crash quite often. We switched to another product and had no problems.
  • IBM Sametime just looks outdated. The menus and contact list are not up to date from a UX perspective compared to many other popular chat apps.
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Likelihood to Renew
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Sametime is now an embedded experience for our users. They know it, they like it, they use it, and they expect it to be wherever they are. Because it is pretty easy to use and NEVER goes down, users know they can rely on it and won't be frustrated by it. Sametime is right up with there with Microsoft Office in terms of user adoption and appreciation.
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Usability
The tool is almost self-implemented. It is likely to be available in every pc or mobile device a user or potential user might have, and all you need to do is adding the company's account and you are done. Once you are setted up, you have almost all actual communication methods available in one tool
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Just about everything works the way you expect it would and it's relatively easy for users to figure out. Sametime was one of those things that we started with only a few people as a "test" and before the test period was done we discovered a few hundred people had figured out how to log in and most got it working all on their own. Many of our users want to use Sametime and do so regularly; we do not have to create policies enforcing its usage. Users find it practical to use Sametime to do things like chat, transfer files, share their screen, and so forth.
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Reliability and Availability
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Typically if Sametime is not available, it's because Windows Updates were done on the servers and they were not rebooted. However, that's not a problem with Sametime -- in fact, if you have Linux you could probably run Sametime for years without any hiccups whatsoever. We have no internal Linux expertise.
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Performance
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Generally very good. Occasionally AV or screen-sharing will stutter and every now and then I hear of it dropping out altogether, but in all cases it was easy to re-establish
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Support Rating
Google Hangouts works great and does not require a lot of work to troubleshoot. Everything is simple and easy to use. Google provides all of the tools that one requires to utilize Google Hangouts and any information can be found in the built-in help tools. There is also a forum for users to report issues and typically, Google responds well and will try to work out any issues.
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I have to use support for many customers. However, support is generally quite responsive and continues to see an issue through to resolution and I would recommend using their knowledgeable and well-trained staff.
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Alternatives Considered
For its time, Google Hangouts (Classic) was a fantastic product and matched up well with all of its successors. Now however, with it having been phased on within Workspace for Education, I would not advise any new users use the product. Google Chat, combined with Google Meet, have superseded Hangouts (Classic) and should be used by default due to their close knit integration with Gmail.
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Text chat is text chat. It's not a technically hard problem to solve. It's when you try and move out of text chat into more fully featured applications that allow for audio or video calling, transcripts, etc, it becomes apparent that the developers on Sametime gave up a long time ago. In my organization, Slack has nearly completely replaced Sametime for any and all purposes that Sametime used to fulfill.
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Scalability
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Sametime is rock solid. It runs on WebSphere, DB2 and other related IBM technologies. This does mean the back-end is highly complex and very difficult to learn and get comfortable with, however.
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Return on Investment
  • I believe it was part of the google suite that was purchased. It was worth the cost as it was cheaper. I believe it is now free, but also becoming deprecated. It is much better to use Teams, Discord, Telegram, etc. Google does not provide enough support or features to make using hangouts worth it these days.
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  • HCL Sametime is affordable thus it is cost-efficient for instant messaging compared to costs of phone calls, especially overseas calls.
  • As Sametime is integrated with Lotus Notes it is convenient to use both of these together without separately using them.
  • Still need to pay for other apps for effective video conferencing and webinar.
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