GoldMine CRM (discontinued) vs. Sage CRM

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
Score 2.6 out of 10
N/A
GoldMine CRM was is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) solutions for small businesses boasting at its peak over 1 millions users across verticals, a CRM solution for businesses running Windows, available for the Cloud, Mobile and on premise. The product was acquired by Ivanti, and currently is no longer available as a standalone application.
$65
per month per user
Sage CRM
Score 8.9 out of 10
Mid-Size Companies (51-1,000 employees)
Sage CRM is an SMB-oriented CRM platform offered in both SaaS and on-premise editions. Unlike the Sage SalesLogix product, the SaaS version is a true multi-tenant offering. The platform offers excellent integration with Sage ERP and accounting products. It is also a good global solution and is available in many languages and is used by over 12,000 customers worldwide, with many customers in Europe.
$45
Per User per Month
Pricing
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Sage CRM
Editions & Modules
Cloud Based
$65
per month per user
On-Premise - multi-user
$1,992
one-time fee 3 shared users (includes 1 year of support)
Sage CRM (cloud)
$45
Per User per Month
Sage CRM (on premise)
$0
Lifetime License per Seat
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Sage CRM
Free Trial
NoYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional DetailsTiered pricing is available for multiple users.
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Community Pulse
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Sage CRM
Features
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Sage CRM
Sales Force Automation
Comparison of Sales Force Automation features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
8.8
Ratings
13% above category average
Customer data management / contact management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Workflow management00 Ratings8.60 Ratings
Territory management00 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Opportunity management00 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Integration with email client (e.g., Outlook or Gmail)00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Contract management00 Ratings8.60 Ratings
Quote & order management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Interaction tracking00 Ratings9.20 Ratings
Channel / partner relationship management00 Ratings8.70 Ratings
Customer Service & Support
Comparison of Customer Service & Support features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
8.1
Ratings
7% above category average
Case management00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Call center management00 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Help desk management00 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Marketing Automation
Comparison of Marketing Automation features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
8.7
Ratings
14% above category average
Lead management00 Ratings8.80 Ratings
Email marketing00 Ratings8.70 Ratings
CRM Project Management
Comparison of CRM Project Management features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
9.0
Ratings
17% above category average
Task management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Billing and invoicing management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Reporting00 Ratings9.10 Ratings
CRM Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of CRM Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
8.6
Ratings
13% above category average
Forecasting00 Ratings8.70 Ratings
Pipeline visualization00 Ratings8.40 Ratings
Customizable reports00 Ratings8.70 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
8.6
Ratings
14% above category average
Custom fields00 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Custom objects00 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Scripting environment00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
API for custom integration00 Ratings8.30 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
8.7
Ratings
5% above category average
Single sign-on capability00 Ratings8.70 Ratings
Role-based user permissions00 Ratings8.80 Ratings
Social CRM
Comparison of Social CRM features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
9.4
Ratings
25% above category average
Social data00 Ratings9.50 Ratings
Social engagement00 Ratings9.30 Ratings
Integrations with 3rd-party Software
Comparison of Integrations with 3rd-party Software features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
9.0
Ratings
20% above category average
Marketing automation00 Ratings9.10 Ratings
Compensation management00 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Platform
Comparison of Platform features of Product A and Product B
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
-
Ratings
Sage CRM
7.8
Ratings
6% above category average
Mobile access00 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Best Alternatives
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Sage CRM
Small Businesses
Salesmate
Salesmate
Score 10.0 out of 10
Salesmate
Salesmate
Score 10.0 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Creatio
Creatio
Score 9.7 out of 10
Creatio
Creatio
Score 9.7 out of 10
Enterprises
Creatio
Creatio
Score 9.7 out of 10
Creatio
Creatio
Score 9.7 out of 10
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User Ratings
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Sage CRM
Likelihood to Recommend
3.0
(0 ratings)
8.9
(0 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
4.6
(0 ratings)
5.1
(0 ratings)
Usability
8.0
(0 ratings)
8.9
(0 ratings)
Availability
10.0
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Performance
7.0
(0 ratings)
8.2
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
7.8
(0 ratings)
7.9
(0 ratings)
In-Person Training
10.0
(0 ratings)
7.0
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
9.0
(0 ratings)
8.0
(0 ratings)
Configurability
8.0
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
9.0
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Sage CRM
Likelihood to Recommend
GoldMine brings some great Sales forecasting tools to the table. By using the set analytics business can properly be forecast and adjusted as new variables are added. Trends are easy to pick out once set up and running. The whole list of customization allows most businesses to make adjustments on the fly to produce better results in the field. From small operation on up GoldMine will scale to fit your needs.
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as it is a very flexible software that can be adapted to any business model, other functions human resource management, manufacturing and supply chain planning, all these functions are housed in a highly technological interface. I liked this system because it made automating accounts payable so much easier.the control of the basic accounting of any type of company
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Pros
  • Organizing trouble tickets or "cases" in customer profiles. They are associated with the customer, so you can go into any customer record and click the cases tab and sort them by any of their columns.
  • The dashboard is invaluable as a support technician. It allows me to find my trouble tickets and sort them by the date they were last updated, allowing me to continuously follow up on older ones as time goes on.
  • The integration of companies, contacts, and cases is essential, as it allows our departments to access the same pools of information efficiently.
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  • Sage CRM is very intuitive and easy to use. The benefit to organizations using this system is that users will find executing daily tasks seamless and accessing historical information easily while selling or servicing customers and prospects.
  • The dashboards and reporting are extensive at both a global and a client level. In addition, these reports and dashboards are available through any interface (smartphone, tablet, browser). This makes accessing real time information in a meaningful way available to users easy through any device wherever the user is located.
  • Escalations and workflow are also very powerful. Sage CRM uniquely provides the ability for users to execute workflow from within the context of the dashboards. What this means is that every day tasks can be executed quickly without lots of time searching through client records.
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Cons
  • GoldMine itself can be a little hard to use if editing the information within the program is not enabled. This comes into play if the main information storage is another system that is migrated to GoldMine
  • Third party apps or software can be complicated to be moved into GoldMine history. It is possible, but requires some upkeep and maintenance.
  • GoldMine takes A LOT of expertise to set up. If set up incorrectly by a bad representative, then it can affect the overall usage of the program in significant ways. Make sure you ask the Goldmine rep several questions and get recommendations for the rep as well as the product.
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  • Reliance on Apache Tomcat causes a lot of headaches. There are common issues trying to start up the server, resulting from Apache Tomcat misconfigurations, or Java. Some forum posts on Sage City address common issues, but digging into server logs seems to be an often occurrence.
  • Support is somewhat lacking, less user install base means error messages are sometimes hard to find quick answers for. Most of the knowledge found on the internet is in the Sage City forum.
  • Integration with Microsoft 365 causes you to have to turn off some security features. This will result in your 365 tenants running lower security standards than recommended, it may put you at risk for targeted attacks.
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Likelihood to Renew
If there were a product that would mean less on-site support/maintenance with comparable or not much more cost, I would seriously consider switching. Furthermore, going to a more mobile, paper-less application process would tip the scales in the favor of a competitor. I'd also like something that integrates web forms so that data entry is more stream-lined as is response time
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There are really no other words to say, it is a very easy to use application that is more straightforward and has provided better results with the bulk of features that appeal to a very broad amount of users. There may be other CRM platforms out there that are more prevalent, but I have found them to be much more clunky and less intuitive than Sage CRM.
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Usability
Personally, perhaps I should give it a higher rating, but I do genuinely think it was very easy to pick up and run with, but I did have a full training session and of course was keen on using it. In my previous marketing role many years ago, I 'd tried to create an MS Access database and this has taken ages, so being introduced to the power of GoldMine really impressed. People have comments on it, but my opinion is its still fast and a great workhorse
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Excellent integration with the most important social networks (LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter) to get leads. The mobile app is quite useful for speeding up the tasks at hand and not relying on the computer or being in the office to get them done.
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Reliability and Availability
For me, its always been there, no worries here about downtime or the internet being down or switched off. Having it on a laptop as well with Goldsync means I'm always able to updated my notes and then synchronise. This to me is one of the benefits of purchased on-premise software, it cant simply be turned off!.
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Performance
Pretty good, Yes, there are occasions when i may think there should be an easier way to do things, but over the years, I've always found a way to get the information out that i want, sometimes just needing a bit of help from the technical team. Day to day,. it works for me very well.
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Sage works very quickly based on the network you are using it on. It is internet based so if your network is slow, it will perform slowly. Reports seem to run reasonably fast, if there is too much information it is trying to populate that could slow it down a little. When Sage CRM is integrated with a Sage ERP product it doesn't tend to slow down either system at all
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Support Rating
Their customer support is spot on! We never feel like we're being made to wait, and when we email, they respond and offer assistance very quickly. It's the same response I'd expect from an in-house IT team down the corridor. Some support teams you know you're talking to the first line support chap who probably doesn't know how to resolve your issue, and you have to wait until they give up and pass it, but GM support people seem very knowledgable
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Support team is really slow and they need to work on this really. Sometimes it takes days to resolve a simple query and there is no way to get it expedited. Rest the product is is amazing but the team should look into the costumer support and get it working
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In-Person Training
I was originally trained by the UK distributor and then subsequently trained my self and had access to GoldMine consultants. In the long run, this saved me a lot of time really since I knew the product on an advanced/administrator basis and able to perform day to day tasks. Some things, still needed the consultants. The trick was with the training, I knew when I was out of my depth
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Most training would come after a upgrade. Otherwise we would self teach new employees. Training was with a Sage Software partner SWK technologies.
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Implementation Rating
As I said earlier, to me now with all this experience, it is ensuring that you focus on two things:- 1/ Ensure core customisations only are required until you get users started and embedded in using the system. 2/ Ensuring users get some good level of dedicated training time, internal or external, but I feel this is best done in a group rather than at your own speed. Afterall, no one really customises their MS Word or MS Excel each time, they just ignore the bits they don't need or ask if they do need them
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The implementation and upgrades were rather quick and straight forward. Attempting to link Sage CRM with Sage 100 ERP however was a nightmare and will be avoided by us in the future due to numerous issues.
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Alternatives Considered
We use this with GoldMine when placing our orders, they both have there uses with in our company. We also use Zoom for automatic emails and calls, this tool is more for searching for the right contact within the companies I work with. I think GoldMine covers a lot more of my needs and [OSAS] Traverse [ERP] is just for billing purposes.
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Sage is an awesome CRM and has several functionalities that several small business can take advantage of however for a small start up business that is trying to get its legs, Hubspot has affordable pricing and complete customization of the backend, meaning that you can create the perfect CRM for your own unique business
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Scalability
GoldMine, when maintained well has always been pretty reliable and in over 10 years, I don't think we've ever lost a day or more than an hour or so when we cant use it. Occasional a 'blip' will happen and you will have to log out, the only thing to bear in mind, which I'm not good at is ensuring you keep the mailbox to less than 2000 mails in your inbound box, I hover around 1800 and need to streamline this to get rid of my junk or notifications from LinkedIn groups for example when i mean to read, but never get round to it
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Return on Investment
  • Documentation and easy access to documentation regarding a particular customer or contact.
  • While utilities exist to re-align territories and other assignments in Goldmine they are not always well documented so even if you are savvy and want to implement some functions yourself you will likely need a VAR support person to do the job for you -- at least the first time.
  • Typically, I have found support to be responsive and prompt. More importantly, even with drive failures, we rarely suffer any downtime with Goldmine.
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  • It is very affordable in pricing, compared to competitors
  • Lead management and convertion into prospects is also a very easy process
  • Lead capture from web pages should be available, and better ways to capture leads from tradeshows by uploading directly from scanned business cards
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