Bonita Platform vs. Oracle BPM Suite

Well suited for low code/no code applications centered around approval flows. It has built-in task management for users to see their pending actions, comments, statuses, etc. It has a very nice design for process flows. Less appropriate may be for generic type applications with complex screens and logic within those screens that need a lot of data to process.

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Oracle BPM is part of [the] Middleware SOA suite. Hence Oracle BPM can be directly installed with Oracle WebLogic. Oracle BPM comes with [a] standard out of the box portal. Recently Oracle has introduced another Web based portal to design processes. Standard Oracle BPM workflows can be created using the Jdeveloper. Deploying BPM apps are easy to deploy over Weblogic. All features with Weblogic can be utilized with Oracle BPM. Oracle BPM is [a] standard Middleware product and can make excellent front end applications.

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• Efficient and fast prototyping: a process can be modeled and tried out quickly and with low investment.
• Full stack prototyping for development and implementation allows the process to be developed and implemented as an application from the prototype. It's not just drawings and wire frames that are tossed over the wall to developers.
• Data modeling is integral from the beginning of the prototype which is appropriate for the stakeholders in the beginning.

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• It can easily integrate with other Oracle products and even 3rd party software via adapters
• It scales quite well and can handle the biggest enterprise level solutions we throw at it
• The ability to use previous requirements as templates is invaluable

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• There is only one business data model. Even if deploying new processes does not require stopping the platform, the BDM update requires it.
• During the platform evolution often new bugs were introduced so it was risky to deploy the platform in the low minor version. For example, there were memory leaks from 7.2.0 to 7.2.3.
• The administrator portal could be improved. It is hard to look at subprocess data, for example and it is sometimes better to investigate with SQL queries. I don't like new (7.3) task list either.

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• Extremely complicated to work with. The WYSIWYG is of no help either since it very buggy and poorly designed. If you are a business or functional user, you will have a hard time using the application.
• The Oracle's "Using" and "Implementing" guides are nearly useless with no examples and case studies and there is no documentation available to learn or understand the process.
• Very few skilled developers are available in market who really understand how to implement Oracle BPM suite.

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We just renewed our license

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In many scenarios it should have provided more features. It took a lot of effort while debugging, making it difficult to maintain.

Bonita Platform has allowed us to develop GUI relatively fast using its UI Designer while being able to seamlessly integrate our business logic in Java in a BPMN2 process diagram. It gives a nice productivity boost but still requires programming know-how to be able to deliver the final solution to your business problems.

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Not easy to debug errors.

Engine itself is efficient enough for most cases I dealt with. It can also be extended by clustering. I have done performance tests with JMeter and only managed to induce the crash of... JMeter. If there are efficiency issues they usually concern bad design/implementation of created apps or bottlenecks in integrated systems. Although I have met two cases with efficiency loss.

1. Java 7 related PermGen saturation caused by big number of installed apps (there is no jar dependency reusal between apps option).

2. Big number of waiting event handlers in processes stresses the database.

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It was sometimes difficult to get support on Bonita API.

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Nothing in particular

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Overall satisfactory

RHPAM is maybe a very good BPM process engine but is very limited to build a complete application.

We also try site soft W4 which needs more developments to build an application. We finally choose Bonita which is easier to get ready with.

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All are fairly similar in capabilities, but the Oracle BPM Suite has good support for BPMN 2.0, integrates well with open standards and has an excellent design/development platform when compared to the other BPM vendors. The Oracle BPM Suite integrates well with the complimentary Oracle Fusion Middleware products that typically accompany a BPM implementation, making it a part of an overall well integrated solution set. Oracle BPM also has very good monitoring, reporting and analytics support built-in.

Respect of BPMN standard over the long term. Good enhancements by Bonitasoft for new use cases, for example the introduction of a real form editor even if it has been technically difficult to manage. Once done though, we have far greater possibility of human interaction.

Incentivized

• We've had serious problems with 'automated' processes in earlier versions of Bonita (via Talend), especially with connectors. In Bonita 7 we replaced these with REST calls, hoping for better performance.
• Overall, using Bonita has not had a positive impact on our development efficiency. Moving from Talend (using Bonita 5) to Bonita 7 has improved this somewhat. Still, it remains a pain to integrate Bonita in the development and delivery process.
• Migrating from Bonita 7.0 to 7.1 has proven to be a difficult undertaking, mainly on the database level. This has cost us a lot of time and better support would be welcomed.

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• When we moved to Oracle BPM many years ago, it was a huge uplift for our business processes because we didn't have any tool to model flows except Outlook and Excel.
• We established and streamlined the manufacturing workflows that were needed with the growth of the business.
• We discovered after a while that the ROI was not great since along with the cost of the tools, we had to account the cost of development from the software team too. It took a lot of time to deliver our first automations due to the big learning curve needed for Oracle BPM.

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