Blue Yonder Luminate Planning vs. Epicor Kinetic

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
Score 7.5 out of 10
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Luminate Planning from Blue Yonder headquartered in Scottsdale (formerly JDA Software Group) leverages a digital twin foundation to intelligently predict potential problems and opportunities, offer machine learning-based recommendations for action, and pivot production, inventory, and labor plans to minimize risk. It is an SCM platform that supports demand planning and inventory optimization, as well as production planning and supply network design, and replenishment.N/A
Epicor Kinetic
Score 8.6 out of 10
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Epicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A
Pricing
Blue Yonder Luminate PlanningEpicor Kinetic
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Blue Yonder Luminate PlanningEpicor Kinetic
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Features
Blue Yonder Luminate PlanningEpicor Kinetic
Supply Chain Planning
Comparison of Supply Chain Planning features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
7.0
Ratings
5% below category average
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Custom alerts7.10 Ratings00 Ratings
Scenario-based planning6.30 Ratings00 Ratings
Resource optimization6.10 Ratings00 Ratings
Supply forecasting8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Capacity estimation7.70 Ratings00 Ratings
Employee allocation6.70 Ratings00 Ratings
Supply network coordination6.90 Ratings00 Ratings
Procurement Management
Comparison of Procurement Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
6.4
Ratings
14% below category average
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Raw material sourcing6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Supply market analysis7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Cost analysis6.70 Ratings00 Ratings
Expense Logging6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Order Fulfillment Management
Comparison of Order Fulfillment Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
7.7
Ratings
2% below category average
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Order fulfillment optimization7.30 Ratings00 Ratings
Return services5.90 Ratings00 Ratings
Purchase order generation9.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Purchase order tracking8.20 Ratings00 Ratings
Supplier delivery scheduling8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Pricing and product configurations generation8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Logistics and Transportation Management
Comparison of Logistics and Transportation Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
6.9
Ratings
6% below category average
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Packaging6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Delivery planning7.30 Ratings00 Ratings
Route optimization7.30 Ratings00 Ratings
Shipping performance7.10 Ratings00 Ratings
Fleet management7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Warehouse & Inventory Management
Comparison of Warehouse & Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
7.2
Ratings
9% below category average
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Automation of warehouse operations7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Inventory storage8.10 Ratings00 Ratings
Stock monitoring7.40 Ratings00 Ratings
Inventory tracking7.40 Ratings00 Ratings
Warehouse asset management6.30 Ratings00 Ratings
Inventory and price forecasting7.10 Ratings00 Ratings
Demand Management
Comparison of Demand Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
7.1
Ratings
3% below category average
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Demand signal sensing8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Demand forecasting7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Customer analytics7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Inventory stock optimization5.50 Ratings00 Ratings
Sales and operations planning8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Pricing and promotion tracking6.90 Ratings00 Ratings
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.4
Ratings
3% above category average
Pay calculation00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Benefit plan administration00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Direct deposit files00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.5
Ratings
1% below category average
API for custom integration00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Plug-ins00 Ratings6.00 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
9.0
Ratings
10% above category average
Single sign-on capability00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Role-based user permissions00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
9.0
Ratings
22% above category average
Dashboards00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Standard reports00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Custom reports00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
Ratings
2% below category average
Accounts payable00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Accounts receivable00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Global Financial Support00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Configurable Accounting00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Standardized Processes00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
9.4
Ratings
17% above category average
Inventory tracking00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Automatic reordering00 Ratings9.90 Ratings
Location management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
8.9
Ratings
12% above category average
Pricing00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Order entry00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Credit card processing00 Ratings7.20 Ratings
Cost of goods sold00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Order Orchestration00 Ratings9.90 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
8.7
Ratings
15% above category average
Billing Management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management00 Ratings5.70 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting00 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Period Close00 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
Ratings
19% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Project Costing00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Cost Capture00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Capital Project Management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
Ratings
10% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling00 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers00 Ratings5.40 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality00 Ratings7.20 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools00 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
Ratings
5% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
8.1
Ratings
15% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared00 Ratings8.70 Ratings
Contract Authoring00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Contract Repository00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated00 Ratings6.00 Ratings
Supplier Management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
Ratings
19% above category average
Risk Repository00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Control Management00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Issue Detection00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Remediation and Certification00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
Ratings
9% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Fulfillment Management00 Ratings5.10 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
8.6
Ratings
15% above category average
Production Process Design00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Production Management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Configuration Management00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Work Execution00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
Ratings
26% above category average
Forecasting00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Inventory Planning00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Performance Monitoring00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Blue Yonder Luminate Planning
-
Ratings
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
Ratings
6% above category average
Proposal Management00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Product Master Data Management00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
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User Ratings
Blue Yonder Luminate PlanningEpicor Kinetic
Likelihood to Recommend
7.3
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9.0
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Usability
-
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9.0
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Support Rating
6.1
(0 ratings)
10.0
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
(0 ratings)
8.5
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
-
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7.6
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Blue Yonder Luminate PlanningEpicor Kinetic
Likelihood to Recommend
This is a great logistics tool. The data analytics portion of the SaaS solution is somewhat light and the out of box reporting is at times not relevant to the report. This requires heavy customization as an enhancement and can get very pricey if the reporting module is not vetted prior to implementation.
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Epicor ERP is great for manufacturing companies, whether you make the same widget every time or if you a make custom widgets, this ERP system can handle it. If you have multiple plants, or multiple companies, Epicor ERP can handle it. Works in the US and internationally also. I do not think the EPR system would be the best choice if you are a distributor or a retailer.
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Pros
  • Attributes
  • Inventory searches
  • Building product information
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  • Our version evolved from Vantage, and to be honest, I'm not really impressed yet. I've seen good examples so am aware it's due to implementation errors, rather than Epicor shortcomings.
  • Unfortunately, our version of the product configurator is very slow.
  • The need for well educated/trained consultants to get a proper implementation should be addressed well by Epicor, as this also determines user experience to a great extent. There is no true fall-back for improper implementation.
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Cons
  • JDA WMS is a pricy solution compared to other WMS vendors. Perhaps they should offer "lighter" versions for smaller customers.
  • JDA acquired RedPrairie a few years ago, and in doing so, has lost some of their "small company" support and customer care.
  • Although integration and label printing are strong features of JDA WMS, they require expertise to set up. It would be nice if those aspects of the system were easier to manage.
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  • Maybe this was really smooth, but it seemed like implementation was a lot of work. As part of a 4 person implementation team, it took us a month or so of going through tutorials, the help files, and meeting with Epicor consultants to learn how we wanted to use Epicor (that month was pretty light, maybe 5-6 hours per week for each of us). Then it took about 3 months setting up Epicor to meet our needs. (The 4 of us each worked 25-30 hours a week during those 3 months on the implementation since we still had production work to do)
  • Epicor can be overwhelming for new users. Our normal users have a hard time at first getting used to it because there is so much to see, learn and do in it, epecially for people with less technical expertise.
  • As the person on the implementation team in charge of customizations, my biggest complaint is the lack of documentation on programming in Epicor. While they do have great documentation on how to use many of their built in customization tools, they give you the ability to write code in C# that should allow you to do anything. But, there is very little to no documentation on the API (Application Programming Interface). Most other programs will have a large help file where users can see the thousands of functions available to program within the system with info on what the functions do, how they are accessed and what inputs they need and sample code for each function. With Epicor.. nope, nothing. Maybe if you buy their SDK for another $24,000 they will have a help file included with that. I don't know.
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Usability
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I give this rating because the software has good functionality and usability. The system does not crash and can also be maintained under overall conditions in any business function. We utilize this to communicate effectively in various areas and make informed business decisions. This is highly rated as we make other changes to our organization
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Support Rating
The support team is overseas and the time zone differences can delay reactivity. The development team appears to overturn annually causing gaps in understanding of pending deliverables. There is also a learning curve that impedes expedited delivery of requested enhancements.
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If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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Alternatives Considered
JDA WMS was a large step up from our legacy Infor solution. It filled many gaps that we couldn't fill with Infor's system. Rather than continuing to build solutions in-house to account for customer requirements, we decided to implement JDA WMS and use all of that system's capabilities to handled what we needed in our warehouses. Granted, Infor's solutions have probably improved since 2007 when we changed, but those were my experiences back when we changed WMS providers.
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Epicor ERP has similar functionality to Made2Manage, but is much more flexible and has significantly more additional modules and support available. Versus PeopleSoft, it becomes an unfair comparison, as Epicor is mid-market and PeopleSoft is large-market. Having said that, Epicor is easier to both implement and use, but has far less flexibility. IQMS is the biggest competitor if in the manufacturing space, particularly injection molding, as IQMS is fast becoming a de-facto "standard".
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Scalability
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At first, it is difficult to convince every one of its immense capabilities but once the scalability is tapped into some it becomes easier to show and convince how well suited the system is for many disciplines. With constant upgrades and updates, there really just isn't a limit to what can be accomplished.
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Return on Investment
  • Backend Job failures- Some times failure of backend jobs cause some disruptions to business, affecting profit targets.
  • Data Mart- JDA offers a special DB which captures data for data mart.
  • Support - Support team needs to improve.
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  • Getting better information from custom reports
  • Getting better information from modules because they require employees to enter more information and have more fields for them to enter information
  • Making some repeat processes quicker, so users can get done with tasks quicker
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ScreenShots

Epicor Kinetic Screenshots

Screenshot of Production MonitoringScreenshot of Role-Based Analytics and Business IntelligenceScreenshot of Planning and SchedulingScreenshot of Shipping and ReceivingScreenshot of the General LedgerScreenshot of Training and Development