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AVEVA Production Management vs. SAP Manufacturing Integration and Intelligence

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    AVEVA Production Management

    Score7.1 out of 10
    N/AAVEVA Production Management (formerly Ampla) provides digital operations and information management, as well as MES for minerals, mining, and metals.N/A

    SAP Manufacturing Integration and Intelligence

    Score8 out of 10
    N/ASAP Manufacturing Integration and Intelligence is a manufacturing operations analytics application.N/A
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    Free/Freemium Version
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    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    User Ratings
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    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.0
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    7.0
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    6.2
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    User Testimonials
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    Likelihood to Recommend
    AVEVA
    For downtime tracking, the process is well suited to tracking the operation of an entire process or plant; it is not suited to tracking individual equipment reliability. For inventory management, it is suited to tracking either bulk or discrete production, as its concepts are quite general. The Metrics engine is suited to smaller deployments; larger deployments would do better to extract and warehouse the raw data for external analysis and reporting.
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    SAP
    SAP Manufacturing Integration and Intelligence as a stand-alone platform seems to be quite powerful with a wide range of capabilities and integration options. The integration itself proved to be challenging which was mentioned before. We also had some issues with delays in data queries which resulted in delays of the visual representation on the SSCE dashboards.
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    Pros
    AVEVA
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    SAP
    • MII is particularly good at providing and customizing dashboards for quick analysis of industrial IoT data.
    • MII also has built-in analysis functionality to make more sense of all the IoT data being streamed.
    • MII (and ME) are particularly effective at identifying outliers and problems with equipment/processes before they cause delays or other cascading issues. This allows for effective preventative maintenance.
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    Cons
    AVEVA
    • Data visualization and analysis--the built-in UI could be more fully featured
    • Integration to external analysis tools and dashboards
    • General UI and usability; a web interface is definitely needed
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    SAP
    • MII is a system to build custom solutions which may not solve industry 4.0 solutions
    • SSCE component is not really a no code low code platform
    • Standard OEE module is very complex to implement
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    Usability
    AVEVA
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    SAP
    If a proper UI5-based implementation is done, the system works at best if a proper application server and database exist. However, from a customization perspective and an easy-to-implement application-from-scratch perspective, MII is top-notch compared to the other mentioned systems. SAP ME sits on top of SAP MII as a foundation.
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    Support Rating
    AVEVA
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    SAP
    Documentation on some of our implementations was lacking. As an example, creating the query that reads the tag is explained through the documentation but this only explains very specific data models. Other models are not explained and take time to debug. Customer support was willing to help and an official note was created after we found some issues with the integration tools.
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    Alternatives Considered
    AVEVA
    We evaluate a number of inventory management products; however, none provided the full pit-to-port coverage. There were only AVEVA Manufacturing Execution, powered by Ampla, and ION Qmastor. AVEVA Manufacturing Execution, powered by Ampla, provided a simpler interface, while the QMastor product seemed to be a collection of applications. There were other products evaluated, but they were not yet mature and proven.
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    SAP
    SAP MII is a robust platform for data visualization and data integration. It isn't very intuitive and has the shortcomings explained throughout the review. It still uses old Java versions which is incompatible with updated versions. The SAP ME and SAP CP provide cloud-based solutions that seem to provide a more innovative approach.
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    Return on Investment
    AVEVA
    • Downtime classification has made sense of plant reliability data; whereas, before it was unstructured and could not be used for analysis
    • Production tracking and reporting. This solution is providing a unified, common source of production tracking for all departments, stored in a database rather than spreadsheets. A single source of truth ensures all data aligns and matches.
    • KPIs are providing a measurable indicator of performance against company-defined targets.
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    SAP
    • SAP MII is a more robust, feature-rich solution than any in-house application would be.
    • Our experiments have granted us the skills necessary to help our clients with their own industrial IoT journey.
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