Apache Subversion vs. Perforce P4

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Apache Subversion
Score 8.0 out of 10
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Apache Subversion is a version control option that is free to download and open source under the Apache 2.0 license.N/A
Perforce P4
Score 7.6 out of 10
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Perforce P4 (formerly Helix Core) is the company's version control and peer code review solution. Perforce offers add-on products for code review for free, and Git support products.N/A
Pricing
Apache SubversionPerforce P4
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
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Apache SubversionPerforce P4
Free Trial
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Free/Freemium Version
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Premium Consulting/Integration Services
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Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Features
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Version Control Software Features
Comparison of Version Control Software Features features of Product A and Product B
Apache Subversion
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Ratings
Perforce P4
7.9
Ratings
4% below category average
Branching and Merging00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Version History00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Version Control Collaboration Tools00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Pull Requests00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Code Review Tools00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Project Access Control00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Automated Testing Integration00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Issue Tracking Integration00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Branch Protection00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
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User Ratings
Apache SubversionPerforce P4
Likelihood to Recommend
6.6
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6.5
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Likelihood to Renew
3.1
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6.6
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Usability
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7.0
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Availability
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9.0
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Performance
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6.0
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Support Rating
-
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9.6
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Implementation Rating
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7.0
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User Testimonials
Apache SubversionPerforce P4
Likelihood to Recommend
Subversion solves our software versioning problem by providing tools for conflict resolution when doing collaborative work on the same files and projects. We use it with TortoiseSVN and it works great for some of our projects with smaller teams. However, we have a need to make code reviews more and it is a little more difficult to do that in SVN, compared to Bitbucket and Git.
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For large-scale codebases with fixed and regular releases that do not follow a continuous delivery paradigm, Perforce is certainly well suited. In projects that are small and distinctly separated from other discrete (though potentially dependent) units, the benefits of the Perforce tool may not be as clear of a victor over other systems.
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Pros
  • Track and control concurrent versions of the same files.
  • Has good support from many different software, including visualization, DevOps toolchain.
  • Well documented and understood by developers as it has been around for a long time.
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  • Merge algorithm is smart and utilizing the visual interface to do merges makes them easier to digest.
  • Easy to set up on multiple platforms and architectures and is well supported on all of them.
  • Visual interface has many tools and customization options that help to optimize and personalize workflow.
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Cons
  • Refactoring the layout of a respoitory--or a part of a repository--can be a bit painful, especially for users with workspaces associated with the affected part of the repository. Not sure what could be done to make that better, but it would be nice if something was possible.
  • Folks coming from Git can have problems using Subversion. Again, not sure anything can (or should) be done to address that, but it is occasionally an issue.
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  • I was having a hard time learning it. Even if you are an experienced developer, there is some learning curve.
  • Can be slow when working with large data sets at once.
  • When working on multiple workspaces on the same machine, Perforce can make it difficult not to mess up the code.
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Likelihood to Renew
While there are interesting alternatives, such a GIT, Subversion has been a breath of fresh air compared to its predecessors like CVS or Microsoft Source Safe (now called Team Foundation Server). Its ease of use and high adoption rate is going to keep me using this product for years to come.
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We have a need to consolidate into a single package, and have such a large variety of technical proficiency among our users that Perforce seems less suitable. Many would like to remain using it, however, even those who use Perforce are the minority, and are often limited to our development teams.
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Usability
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With Perforce Helix, you can use it via the command line, via P4V, or any of the other APIs included with the product. It is extremely easy for new users to get up and running. Users of Perforce Helix only have to pull in the files of interest to them. Also, Perforce is very easy to script and integrate into your CI/CD pipeline. Streams allows you to have pinpoint control of your workflow, and P4Search is the absolute best--I wish Perforce (the company) would talk more about this. It is absolutely fabulous!
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Reliability and Availability
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In our large environment, Perforce is rarely "down". We have regular maintenance windows and from time to time Perforce can feel a little slow, but its always available. Tech support has always worked with our engineers and IT department to make sure that any real performance or stability issues are addressed quickly.
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Support Rating
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I had two representatives from Perforce contact me after downloading it but never responded when I had questions. I also had a difficult time finding good training material for getting started. There is a lot of available support material when running into issues, though, because of how many large companies use it.
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Implementation Rating
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This rating is related to setting up an environment from an existing Perforce repository. Initial setup of Perforce as the repository for the company was done by a separate team long prior to my inception.
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Alternatives Considered
After Microsoft Visual SourceSafe was discontinued, we chose Subversion and it was a great choice. We were able to migrate to Apache Subversion very quickly and easily and benefited immediately from its non-locking workflow (SourceSafe required users to "lock" the file when editing to prevent editing conflicts from other users, whereas Subversion allows multiple users to edit the same file simultaneously and then merge conflicts later.)
While we still use Apache Subversion for our legacy projects, we've migrated to Git and GitHub for our new projects as that is the new "cool kid" and it provides some benefits such as distributed and offline development. But Git is more complex than Apache Subversion and not as easy to learn.
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New users of Perforce Helix can be up and running in less than thirty minutes. It is easy to use, but also very powerful. Bitbucket is slow, prone to outages, and (for large teams) requires a team of dedicated administrators. I've had request for information from Bitbucket that requires hours to pull together that would take me less than 30 seconds in Perforce Helix. Large file storage in Bitbucket is clunky and requires you to jump through too many hoops. It's not even something you have to think about with Perforce Helix, as you are only limited by your OS. Perforce Helix is very easy to use even for non-developers. I wouldn't dare ask a non-developer to store their documentation in Bitbucket.
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Return on Investment
  • It allowed us to deliver the right files to our customer without "clobbering" previous releases, making for a far more satisfied customer.
  • It allowed our developers to work on two releases in parallel (plus an occasional third, for emergency fixes).
  • With some simple hooks, it allowed us to set up a system where code was was automatically deployed to test servers as soon as developers committed it, making testing easier. This was made easier by virtue of being a ColdFusion project, which requires no compilation. However, that is possible for compiled code with a continuous integration system like Jenkins.
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  • Locking assets make us have no merge problems which are harder to manage on other versions control without locking
  • Almost no need to give support to artists or non-tech folks because the operations are very straightforward
  • There's no way to do interim checkins without going to the process of creating a stream
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